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Dr. Monkey

Israel is determined to drag us into WW3.

JDM

Lotta oil in Iran.

gmb

Dr. Monkey: It looks that way, no? Now the article has all kinds of language suggesting that the U.S. is trying to distance itself from Israel. My understanding is that the Chinese have some interest in the oil too. And I can't believe any European nation would join in. That said, given how Rahm Emmanuel--who served in the Israeli army--was integral to Obama's team, I worry. Still, this is so nutty and destructive that I have to--ok, I want to--believe that it is sabre rattling and someone sane will prevail.
JDM: I know. But if Israel atacks, how does one gather oil after a nuclear catastrophe? I mean, what happens to the fuel that presumably being developed or used if the plant around it is blown to smithereens? GMB

Antoniomo

They won't care if the oil is contaminated. If it burns, by god, let's use it!

gmb

Antoniomo: But Iraq was all about control of the oil--not cheap oil for average Americans, hahahahahaha, just controlling it and deciding who can have and who cannot. So they do care about the oil. God, there are a lot of evil people in this world, and most of them work in big oil, big pharm, big finance, or big gov't. We need a real purge, ala Hercules cleaning the Augean stables. I wonder if the Potomac can really hose away that much shit? GMB

MDC

Not saying it isn't going to happen. But it seems like I've been reading these stories about how "Israel may strike Iran really, really soon! Really! For reals this time! Real talk!" for the last 5 years or so.

gmb

I agree, Max. The problem is that the Israeli gov't is nuts, the Likkudniks are nuts and how many people are really paying attention? Each time "they" claim the Iranians are closer. I don't know how it plays out, but I know this--an attack would be evil and disastrous, whoever does it. How could an attack not fuel WWIII? GMB

MDC

Agreed -- it would be very very bad news.

Here's more on the scaremongering about Iranian nukes -- a nice compilation of statements by rightwingers here and in Israel saying they're "2 or 3 years away" from getting a bomb, going all the way back to 1984:

http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2010/12/phantom-menace-fantasies-falsehoods-and.html

gmb

MDC: It's such bullshit. From what I've read, Israel has about 20 nukes, we have god knows how many thousand (6,000 or 9,000), Russia, the same as us, and China, France, India and fucking Pakistan. Shit, N. Korea, the epitome of a failed state, kinda has two. Of course Iran wants a bomb, with Israel to the left, Pakistan nearby, etc., who teh fuck wouldn't? I mean, would anyone take N. Korea the slightest bit seriously if they didn't spend every last fucking dollar on their military? GMB

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